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no i aint, but me and matty a (chrissy a's bro) really want to see em. You can drive me down [img]graemlins/thumbs_up.gif[/img] i know you vaguely coz im the kid who broke his arm wen we went to boston skatepark and you sed to that kid "i dont care wot u think, youve got a linkin park t-shirt" LOL that was a good 1
PS im loving the lyrics from scarecrow
" ive come to the conclusion, that no 1 really understands anything......" lol
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carlos,its me, ed u dumb fuck. u prove my point cuz its the punk kids getting intereted again, thats what i like to see.
bagsy a spot on the strung out trip?
please?
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Ah right, I vaguely remember that... ^_^
Same Chrissy A who's playing bass for me, Chris and Ellis now?
I can only get me and 3 others in my car...
Don't know when they're coming over here next anyway. I almost had tickets for last time they were meant to come, and then Sept 11 happened, so they didn't. Dammit!!
But I have sen em twice already, so ^_^
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well put me down for a place in ur car lol. They are my fav band. Yeh, chris allen, wot a legend [img]graemlins/thumbs_up.gif[/img] i think the american paradox tour is starting soon so they should be coming over this summer i recon. they are just so amazing, wots ur fav album by them????
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Argh!! I can't answer that!! [img]confused.gif[/img]
Um, I think it's a tie between STWB and EOSD...Although I'm REALLY starting to warm to AP now.
I love Velvet Alley, Unkoil, Razor Sex, Cemetary and Don't Look Back.
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yeh, my favs off american paradox are cult of subteraininan, velvet alley, uncoil coz of the ace guitar solos they play together and an american paradox. EOSD is amazing and i love twisted by design coz i know nearly all the words to it lol, but wots the deal with the ataris ripping san dimas high school football rules off number 3 or 4 off STWB? its a disgrace [img]mad.gif[/img] i like all there albums coz theve all got some really really amazing songs on em.
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Everyone sucks the big one!!
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dave? where is "dont look back" on american paradox...or is it the bonus track that was only on the 1st 100 copies? did you download that?
remember there has to be space for me in your car for me, i cant be arsed to drive to every gig lately...but then again-for strung out...i guess its worth it. even thought theyre not the best band in the world (ha ha...dont kill me)
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erm...carlos99, i think ataris san dimas high school.... came out long before strung out released element of sonic defiance.
sn dimas was on the ataris release they did on fat in 98 and then again on their "blue skies, broken hearts...next 12 exits" album on kung fu.
Strung out released "element..." in 2000...even though dave will hate me for saying it but by what you're saying its more like strung out ripping off ataris.
dont get me wrong though...strung out fucking rock!
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of fuck! is my face red....you said suburband teenage didnt you...not element.
fuck! i totally admit defeat!
sorry about that
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yep, no probs belly boy [img]graemlins/thumbs_up.gif[/img]
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word to yo momma carlos!
strung out rule...technical wizzardry reigns supreme!
what other bands do you like then...
how about lagwagon, good riddance, no use..., craigs brother, goldfinger, beerbong ,rufio
i think lagwgaon are my favs at the moment-but we'll have to see when i eventually get to see strung out
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yeh lagwagon are cool. I like Good Riddance, H20, Bigwig, Pennywise, Sick Of It All, Screeching Weasel, The Vandals, Bad Brains, Anti Flag, Rise Against (wot ive heard of them) and Zero Down etc
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oh yer, and no use for a name like you sed, i maily love em for the drummers [img]graemlins/thumbs_up.gif[/img] one day i long to be as good as them [img]biggrin.gif[/img] oh yer and Frenzal Rhomb and Mad Caddies and Assorted Jelly Beans
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Hello
Ive always liked pop punk...
Alkaline Trio is the kinda stuff we wanted to do
I dont know who made out i only like 'emo' or whatever...i tend to like all the 'punk' stuff incl all the subgenres of it. Infact, i just like whatevers catchy or good to listen to in general. And yes, the new Strung Out Album does fucking rule.
Byes
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I just tend to be a lot more picky with pop punk cos theres loads of bands who do it but only about half of them are proper smart and original
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Well didn't you read the part where I said "Yes, I am close-minded"? (And if you ask anyone who knows me, I think they'd agree...) I think all but the least mentally-proficient among us can work out what I was saying, therefore your dumbing-down of my post was unnecessary.
the fact remains, we are ALL close-minded. Just that some of us see this and like to say so...
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I agree to a degree...except I am not close minded to the point where I only like certain types of music...I make an effort to listen and appreciate all forms...and I do genuinly like a lot of stuff...I enjoy pop punk loads...but mainly in the summer,as it seems to be more fitting with the party mood etc.
I like some hc too,but like everything else it becomes too samey(actually hc becomes too samey after the shortest amount of time)...the main thing is the bullshit associated within liking certain styles...on who is the most hardcore and who likes the newest bands...its pretentious when hardcore people do it,its always happened with pop punk bands and its just funny when nu-metallers do it.
It will never go away though..I remember people raving on about greenday...then as soon as they become successful they were branded sell outs...despite the fact the single they were accused of selling out with,was actually written when billy joe was 15.............
As for the punk crew being the most friendly.....the older ones definately are....but the young ones are just as elitist as anyone...and saying that..its a generation thing....no doubt if the staind fans etc are still around in ten years they will be just the same.
And the only time I usually get to play stuff I personally like is if someone else asks for it...it is very rare I will put something on for myself....and I have made a concious effort to play requests for you and your friends...as I realised that I tended to neglet to do that at Hollydeffs
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to some extent pop punk's the sound of the summer. it is to some of the minority what ibiza anthems are to the majority. it's happy music. whereas nothing compliments the miserable winter better than dark dingy miserable music (radiohead an tha'). notice how at this stage of the year, the bit just between winter and summer noone's sure what to play. in fact noone really seems to be playing anything currently. i'm really looking forward to summer - it's shit in limbo.
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hmmm......alkaline trio=pop punk?
i kinda see where youre coming from, but ive always protested against people reffering to those kinda vagrant bands as "just another pop punk band".
i love rufio, slick shoes, bodyjar, hot water music, saves the day, no use, nofx, deisel boy, dynamite boy.
summer will come soon enough and i will be stuck playing shit greenday style stuff.
deffer......someone let me play something fast
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Alkaline Trio - pop punk
What else would it be???
I know it aint the usual Blink182 shite but its still Punk with a pop edge
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Dancing To The Siknotes - If I hadn't danced to The Siknotes, no-one else would have...which would have then been boring. It's called supporting a band. Honestly, I'm not into the music they play but, unlike people who didn't like Left To Yesterday, I still supported instead of standing at the back and then saying they were shit on a forum.
One Car Pile-up - Call me sentimental but OCP played at the first gig I ever went to. This was the main reason I went. To be honest, I couldn't remember what they sounded like, but had an ace time first time round and so I went to this gig. They played well and were tight and entertaining but, if they had an album I wouldn't buy it...
And the problem with me having a good time is??? Nothing.
I thought Yeter Pang were pants most of the time but danced in support.
Plus, if you had a problem with it, Dave or Ellis, why didn't you tell me on the night?
On a lighter note -
Siknotes should be playing at L2Y's last gig at The West Marsh on 13th July with -
Steel Rules Die
Osterman Weekend (fuckin ace band)
Next Autumn Soundtrack (they've had a couple of unfortunate gigs, give em a chance.)
Starts at 7:00pm - ?3 on the door.
Come and support by dancing in spite of you thinking the bands are shit or not being alowd to like crummy wannabe emo shite.
Love
JOE - L2Y (not back for good cuz the forum is still shit)
PS - none of you know shit about Yidcore or Liquid Car Crash...two ace pop-punk bands...I own albums by both and will lend them to either Mr. Habgood or Mr Ellis as a gesture of emo good-will. I'll be crying into my Pringle tank top as I hand them over.
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People's musical taste will obviously evolve with the newer genres they are exposed to. Ostrasizing a particular section of the "scene" for these tastes is obviously counter productive, as is claiming ones styles superiority. Punk is as much an ethos as it is a musical style, I would be confidnet in stating that Strung Out don't aurally or ideologically adhere to the original definition of punk- but they are still classed as punk.
I don't care what genres of music any of you listen to and you shouln't care about my tastes. My actions and decisions however have little relevance to these taste so i would appreciate peoples condemnation to be justified before personal insults are forged.
Dave, i have always been as honest and accomodating towards you as i find fit, so your dismissal of my achievements as pretensios comes as something of a slight surpise. I was going to refrain from mentioning your glorified,trivial, americanised,ultra-generic, lyrically immature choice of music genre but then i realised your heroes are cocaine addled rockstars who couldn't be further from the defintition of punk. Well my defintion of punk- what's yours? ....i eagerly await a reply.
yours Lorgie [img]graemlins/bat.gif[/img]
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I love lagwagon, for me they are the best band I've ever heard and seen!! Big wig are pretty amazing aswell... belvedere are dead cool... beerbong kick ass... No use for a name, no fun at all, anti-flag, mock orange, midtown, millencollin's new album is ace, I need to get hold of some bollweevils stuff 'cos they're pretty cool.. As friends rust are pretty good aswell.. Strung out are ace but I like their older stuff. Tghe hippos are ace for cheering up and that 'cos they are dead happy and rocky at the same time.. ace.. I love music.. [img]smile.gif[/img]
Fridays gig was ace, UFK played dead well, I was impressed considering they got a new bassist a week before the gig.. [img]smile.gif[/img] OCP rocked It's always a treat to see them play. I hope people liked us.
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firstly...the whole old school/wanker thing is a joke...no offence intended.
Secondly...someone criticised me for not having any lagwagon...well thats because I dont get sent any....I cant afford to be buying cds...so it is down to who promotes....
I would appreciate a compilation cd being made up by someone featuring their favourite tracks by various bands...numbered and with tracklistings,because apart from the surface...it is a genre that has passed me by...that way I have always got something to cater for you with...
I just want to clarifythe whole request thing....
We have all made compilation tapes in the past and on average..you tend to fit 12 songs onto one side of a ninety minute tape...which makes 24 in total...times that by 3 to equate the ammount of time I have at a rock night and that makes 72....
On average I get to play around 80-90 songs per night realistically...the average crowd at Park lane is around 130....so if I take one request from each person...I cant play them all.I know that doesnt happen ever....but I do get a hell of a lot of requests...so I try to limit it to 2 or 3 per group if you will (circles of friends)So believe me,when I have said I dont have time for something...I am not bullshitting,I am being honest...which is something you dont get with many djs.Its always been my policy to tell the truth...and if I ever do say I will play a track and I don't,that is because I have over estimated what time I have left.....
I just wanted to explain that to people..but if someone could help me with a compilation(again I stress,it NEEDS a tracklisting)then I will be more than happy to cater for you....plus it gives me a chance to listen to stuff at home that I dont get sent much of...largely because punk labels have tended to be unresponsive to my requests to be added to mailing lists.
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shit sorry dunc's, i will be moving back to grimsby for the summer so i will (promise) to bring that bollweevils cd for you. Shit just had a thought that it may be packed in a box destined for my new house. i'll see cos i think it is back in grimsby!
cheers [img]graemlins/bat.gif[/img]
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Lorg:
I didn't say YOU or your achievements were pretentious. I said Joe from Ex-Members was. But perhaps that's just because I don't like him. And ok, perhaps I was a little rampant on that first post. I respect Greenacre for what you've done, I just think your tunes sound a little like Elevator Muzak. No offence intended. There, does that set it straight? [img]smile.gif[/img]
But wait...Strung Out lyrically immature? Are you serious? You can't be, surely? Go and read some of their lyrics before saying that again. Cocaine-addled? Hardly. Rock stars? Maybe. Ultra-generic? Again, I think a bit of research needs to be done here. Americanised? Well, most of the bands ARE american. Does that count for naught? Glorified and trivial? I fail to see what relevance those terms hold to punk as a genre. Perhaps you could explain?
And Strung Out, no, I don't think I do class them as punk anymore. Same as Gameface. It's just good music.
Joe:
Again, no offence intended. I was merely saying "What the fuck?!" It was something I didn't expect.
Seems like I'm quite good at this offending people lark. Perhaps I should take it up full-time and write hugely offensive comic strips for Viz...I wish...
So, to recap:
Lorgie. I wasn't having a go at you personally. I've had some great laughs with you, and I was more than a little disappointed in the path you chose. That is all. No offence intended.
Joe. Again, I wasn't having a go. We've resolved our previous bad blood, so that's that. Actually, I think you and I may see things in quite a similar way, if you know what I mean?
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Music = vibrations that come out of a speaker....like it or dont....why bitch, blah blah blah, punks better than this, metals better than that....who gives a fuk.
p.s this wasnt aimed at anyone for an argument, i cant be arsed, ppl should just chill out and enjoy music for what it is....noise.
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I am the very model of a modern Major-General,
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About binomial theorem I'm teeming with a lot o' news,
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In short, in matters vegetable, animal, and mineral,
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I answer hard acrostics, I've a pretty taste for paradox,
I quote in elegiacs all the crimes of Heliogabalus,
In conics I can floor peculiarities parabolous;
I can tell undoubted Raphaels from Gerard Dows and Zoffanies,
I know the croaking chorus from the Frogs of Aristophanes!
Then I can hum a fugue of which I've heard the music's din afore,
And whistle all the airs from that infernal nonsense Pinafore.
Then I can write a washing bill in Babylonic cuneiform,
And tell you ev'ry detail of Caractacus's uniform:
In short, in matters vegetable, animal, and mineral,
I am the very model of a modern Major-General.
In fact, when I know what is meant by "mamelon" and "ravelin",
When I can tell at sight a Mauser rifle from a javelin,
When such affairs as sorties and surprises I'm more wary at,
And when I know precisely what is meant by "commissariat",
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When I know more of tactics than a novice in a nunnery--
In short, when I've a smattering of elemental strategy,
You'll say a better Major-General has never sat a gee.
For my military knowledge, though I'm plucky and adventury,
Has only been brought down to the beginning of the century;
But still, in matters vegetable, animal, and mineral,
I am the very model of a modern Major-General.
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hey wait a minute joe!
go back and check if i did say i had a problem with you having fun on friday!
if i did say it im sorry...but i dont think you will find it.
who else was dancing with you and having fun for the first time in ages-me. i was having loads of fun going off my tits with you so why would i say shit about it?
just because i hang round with dave and agree with the same music tastes doesnt mean i have the same opinions of people as he does, i try to stay friends with as many people as possible.
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I am the very model of a modern Major-General,
I've information vegetable, animal, and mineral,
I know the kings of England, and I quote the fights historical
From Marathon to Waterloo, in order categorical;
I'm very well acquainted, too, with matters mathematical,
I understand equations, both the simple and quadratical,
About binomial theorem I'm teeming with a lot o' news,
With many cheerful facts about the square of the hypotenuse.
I'm very good at integral and differential calculus;
I know the scientific names of beings animalculous:
In short, in matters vegetable, animal, and mineral,
I am the very model of a modern Major-General.
I know our mythic history, King Arthur's and Sir Caradoc's;
I answer hard acrostics, I've a pretty taste for paradox,
I quote in elegiacs all the crimes of Heliogabalus,
In conics I can floor peculiarities parabolous;
I can tell undoubted Raphaels from Gerard Dows and Zoffanies,
I know the croaking chorus from the Frogs of Aristophanes!
Then I can hum a fugue of which I've heard the music's din afore,
And whistle all the airs from that infernal nonsense Pinafore.
Then I can write a washing bill in Babylonic cuneiform,
And tell you ev'ry detail of Caractacus's uniform:
In short, in matters vegetable, animal, and mineral,
I am the very model of a modern Major-General.
In fact, when I know what is meant by "mamelon" and "ravelin",
When I can tell at sight a Mauser rifle from a javelin,
When such affairs as sorties and surprises I'm more wary at,
And when I know precisely what is meant by "commissariat",
When I have learnt what progress has been made in modern gunnery,
When I know more of tactics than a novice in a nunnery--
In short, when I've a smattering of elemental strategy,
You'll say a better Major-General has never sat a gee.
For my military knowledge, though I'm plucky and adventury,
Has only been brought down to the beginning of the century;
But still, in matters vegetable, animal, and mineral,
I am the very model of a modern Major-General.</font></td></tr></table></td></tr></table></BLOCKQUOTE>
We are looking for a singer to form an experimental progressive emo band.
They must be able to recite this on the spot, at any time. chosen by us.
Spot checks will be spontanious and at any time of the day and / or night.
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haha
i bet ben can do it anyway, he seems to be able to do anything and know anything!
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ha ha.. s'ok lorgy, when ever you can. [img]smile.gif[/img]
I'll do a cd comp for you ant's when I get some cd's, I'll put a bit of everything I got so you got loads for if other people request stuff...
If ya want that is... and it's not all punk stuff either.
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hey dunks, thaks for the compliment, but tthat is our old bass player, even tho he fucked up a fair bit. the gig with john (temp) will be the same day as joes osterman weekend gig at the winter gardens.
btw everyone, bus tickets are in for the dickies gig.
we need 30 to fill a coach, so do what u can guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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punk rock ethos will never die, cos its self sustaining, it encourages young kids to get into the scene from a young age due to media exposure to a certain degree, its just a shame if these young kids get caught up with the "powerful" dudes along the line, they end up subscribing to the emo/hardcore shit that will eventually alienate them from everyone, except those who encourage them, and who are usually pretentious wankers, who make themselves feel powerful by quoting reels of dogma, which they probably stole form thier local librarys copy of chomsky, i realise this post makes no sense, but hey ifve got unresolved issues too!
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<marquee>issues on it.</marquee>
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i av stood bak n watched this dispute n it seems like it is dave n ellis vs the world lol
basically strung out r a dam gud band but i must admit that they r pickin up gimmicks but no one can say that they r not a gud band who's albums r amazin cause they r all different
just cause its summer does not mean everyone sud listen to punk, wen its winter i listen to punk n wen its summer i listen to punk. it is great anytime.
tis just typical of this town that 6 months ago u mention a punk band n everyone (accept a few i.e dave) dimisses it as crap but now it has cum bak again
the emo fad lasted along time lol
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off the subject totally...but why do people insist on posting as if they were using a mobile...it looks stupid and is difficult to read...we have a language...kindly use it...